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	=== Weaknesses of Non-Hermetic Magic ===		=== Weaknesses of Non-Hermetic Magic ===
	There are qualities inferior to [[Hermetic Magic]] that non-Hermetic magic may have. If they used paired abilities, the equivalent of arts, one, usually comparable to a technique, may either be a difficult art or not be an accelerated ability. This is usually the case where there are fewer techniques in the tradition than in Hermetic Magic. Or, only one art equivalent ability may be used in any casting. Either case means that tradition's practitioners have lower casting totals and [[penetration]] than a magus would. The total array of effects the tradition's spells constitute will likely be smaller than the more flexible [[Hermetic Arts]] as well, though a hedge tradition may be able to cause some effects that Hermetic Magic cannot. Many non-Heremtic ~~traaditions~~ are hard to learn and is are written down in [[book\|books]]. This seriously limits the advancement potential of a hedge wizard.		There are qualities inferior to [[Hermetic Magic]] that non-Hermetic magic may have. If they used paired abilities, the equivalent of arts, one, usually comparable to a technique, may either be a difficult art or not be an accelerated ability. This is usually the case where there are fewer techniques in the tradition than in Hermetic Magic. Or, only one art equivalent ability may be used in any casting. Either case means that tradition's practitioners have lower casting totals and [[penetration]] than a magus would. The total array of effects the tradition's spells constitute will likely be smaller than the more flexible [[Hermetic Arts]] as well, though a hedge tradition may be able to cause some effects that Hermetic Magic cannot. Many non-Heremtic traditions are hard to learn and are not written down in [[book\|books]]. This seriously limits the advancement potential of a hedge wizard.

	No non-Hermetic tradition gives the extent of protection that magi obtain from the magic resistance and form bonuses derived from their knowledge of the Hermetic forms, though some protection is provided.		No non-Hermetic tradition gives the extent of protection that magi obtain from the magic resistance and form bonuses derived from their knowledge of the Hermetic forms, though some protection is provided.

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	=== Strengths of Non-Hermetic Magic ===		=== Strengths of Non-Hermetic Magic ===
	Some of the [[Limits of Magic]] are considered to be flaws in Hermetic [[~~Magic Theory~~]]. In principle, a non-Hermetic tradition might not share these flaws. In practice, there are [[game balance]] considerations to bending or breaking the Limits of Magic, so there's no non-Hermetic tradition in [[canon]] that can just disregard all of them. Also, even if a certain kind of non-Hermetic magic could get around one of the Limits of Magic, that doesn't mean it would necessarily be more powerful than Hermetic magic. It might have inherent flaws of its own.		Some of the [[Limits of Magic]] are considered to be flaws in Hermetic [[magic theory]]. In principle, a non-Hermetic tradition might not share these flaws. In practice, there are [[game balance]] considerations to bending or breaking the Limits of Magic, so there's no non-Hermetic tradition in [[canon]] that can just disregard all of them. Also, even if a certain kind of non-Hermetic magic could get around one of the Limits of Magic, that doesn't mean it would necessarily be more powerful than Hermetic magic. It might have inherent flaws of its own.

	Since non-Hermetic magic doesn't use the same rules as Hermetic magic, each tradition has its own analogue of the [[spell guidelines]]. This means that things that are hard to do with the Hermetic Arts (that is, things that have a high-[[Magnitude]] spell guideline) might be a good deal easier under the rules for a particular form of non-Hermetic magic.		Since non-Hermetic magic doesn't use the same rules as Hermetic magic, each tradition has its own analogue of the [[spell guidelines]]. This means that things that are hard to do with the Hermetic Arts (that is, things that have a high-[[Magnitude]] spell guideline) might be a good deal easier under the rules for a particular form of non-Hermetic magic.

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			'''Non-Hermetic''' is an adjective that refers to any supernatural power or effect that is different from [[Hermetic Magic]]. While [[Infernal]] and [[Faerie]] powers could be described as non-Hermetic, the term is usually reserved for powers derived from the [[Magic Realm]].


	'''~~non~~-Hermetic''' is an adjective that refers to any supernatural power or effect that is different from [[Hermetic Magic]]. While [[Infernal]] and [[Faerie]] powers could be described as non-Hermetic, the term is usually reserved for powers derived from the [[Magic Realm]].



	== Kinds of Non-Hermetic Magic ==		== Kinds of Non-Hermetic Magic ==

	There are basically four kinds of non-Hermetic magic:		There are basically four kinds of non-Hermetic magic:

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	== Similarities Differences from Hermetic Magic ==		== Similarities Differences from Hermetic Magic ==

	Like Hermetic magic, the power of non-Hermetic magic comes from the [[Magic Realm]], but people who use it (called ''magicians'' or ''wizards'') are mortal. They are not considered magical creatures and do not have a [[Might Score]].		Like Hermetic magic, the power of non-Hermetic magic comes from the [[Magic Realm]], but people who use it (called ''magicians'' or ''wizards'') are mortal. They are not considered magical creatures and do not have a [[Might Score]].

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	=== Strengths of Non-Hermetic Magic ===		=== Strengths of Non-Hermetic Magic ===

	Some of the [[Limits of Magic]] are considered to be flaws in Hermetic [[Magic Theory]]. In principle, a non-Hermetic tradition might not share these flaws. In practice, there are [[game balance]] considerations to bending or breaking the Limits of Magic, so there's no non-Hermetic tradition in [[canon]] that can just disregard all of them. Also, even if a certain kind of non-Hermetic magic could get around one of the Limits of Magic, that doesn't mean it would necessarily be more powerful than Hermetic magic. It might have inherent flaws of its own.		Some of the [[Limits of Magic]] are considered to be flaws in Hermetic [[Magic Theory]]. In principle, a non-Hermetic tradition might not share these flaws. In practice, there are [[game balance]] considerations to bending or breaking the Limits of Magic, so there's no non-Hermetic tradition in [[canon]] that can just disregard all of them. Also, even if a certain kind of non-Hermetic magic could get around one of the Limits of Magic, that doesn't mean it would necessarily be more powerful than Hermetic magic. It might have inherent flaws of its own.

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	== References ==		== References ==

	* Other Wizards, [[ArM5]] page 16		* Other Wizards, [[ArM5]] page 16
	* Learning Supernatural Abilities, [[ArM5]] page 166		* Learning Supernatural Abilities, [[ArM5]] page 166

	== Related Topics ==		== Related Topics ==

	* [[Mystery]]		* [[Mystery]]
	* [[Hedge Wizard]]		* [[Hedge Wizard]]
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	* [[Join or Die]]		* [[Join or Die]]
	* [[Ancient Magic]]		* [[Ancient Magic]]

	== Legacy Page ==		== Legacy Page ==
	The history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:non-hermetic]]		The history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:non-hermetic]]

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	* [[Join or Die]]		* [[Join or Die]]
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	=== Legacy Page ===		== Legacy Page ==
	The history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:non-hermetic]]		The history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:non-hermetic]]

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	=== Weaknesses of Non-Hermetic Magic ===		=== Weaknesses of Non-Hermetic Magic ===
			There are qualities inferior to [[Hermetic Magic]] that non-Hermetic magic may have. If they used paired abilities, the equivalent of arts, one, usually comparable to a technique, may either be a difficult art or not be an accelerated ability. This is usually the case where there are fewer techniques in the tradition than in Hermetic Magic. Or, only one art equivalent ability may be used in any casting. Either case means that tradition's practitioners have lower casting totals and [[penetration]] than a magus would. The total array of effects the tradition's spells constitute will likely be smaller than the more flexible [[Hermetic Arts]] as well, though a hedge tradition may be able to cause some effects that Hermetic Magic cannot. Many non-Heremtic traaditions are hard to learn and is are written down in [[book\|books]]. This seriously limits the advancement potential of a hedge wizard.

	~~Non~~-Hermetic ~~magic is a lot less flexible than Hermetic magic. Usually, a given~~ tradition ~~is limited to a single [[Form]]~~ of magic~~, or perhaps a handful~~ of forms.		No non-Hermetic tradition gives the extent of protection that magi obtain from the magic resistance and form bonuses derived from their knowledge of the Hermetic forms, though some protection is provided.

	~~Non~~-Hermetic traditions lack [[Parma Magica]]~~. Their spells and effects tend to have weak [[Penetration]]. This puts them at~~ a ~~serious disadvantage when they have to fight or compete with magi~~. ~~Probably their best option is to try indirect attacks (see [[School of Vilano]]).~~		Of course, non-Hermetic traditions lack [[Parma Magica]], but that is a lack of knowledge, not ability. Non-Hermetic practitioners with the gift can learn parma magica, as it is an arcane ability, not a supernatural ability or art. This is why join or die is enforced absolutely for anyone who learns the parma magica.

	~~Most non~~-~~Heremtic magic is hard to~~ learn ~~and~~ is not ~~written down in [[book\|books]]~~. This ~~seriously limits~~ the ~~advancement potential of a hedge wizard~~.

	== References ==		== References ==

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'''non-Hermetic''' is an adjective that refers to any supernatural power or effect that is different from [[Hermetic Magic]]. While [[Infernal]] and [[Faerie]] powers could be described as non-Hermetic, the term is usually reserved for powers derived from the [[Magic Realm]].

== Kinds of Non-Hermetic Magic ==

There are basically four kinds of non-Hermetic magic:

# [[Hedge Magic]]
# [[Mystery|Mysteries]]
# [[Ancient Magic]]
# [[Supernatural Virtue|Supernatural Virtues]]

== Similarities Differences from Hermetic Magic ==

Like Hermetic magic, the power of non-Hermetic magic comes from the [[Magic Realm]], but people who use it (called ''magicians'' or ''wizards'') are mortal. They are not considered magical creatures and do not have a [[Might Score]].

Each [[tradition]] of non-Hermetic magic typically has its own [[game mechanics]] that describe how it works. They do ''not'' use the same rules as Hermetic magic. By necessity, the rules for a non-Hermetic tradition are a lot simpler than the rules for Hermetic Magic. A given type of non-Hermetic magic is usually based on a [[Supernatural Virtue]], an [[Arcane Ability]], or some combination, but that's just a convenient convention. Some non-Hermetic rules work differently.

=== Strengths of Non-Hermetic Magic ===

Some of the [[Limits of Magic]] are considered to be flaws in Hermetic [[Magic Theory]]. In principle, a non-Hermetic tradition might not share these flaws. In practice, there are [[game balance]] considerations to bending or breaking the Limits of Magic, so there's no non-Hermetic tradition in [[canon]] that can just disregard all of them. Also, even if a certain kind of non-Hermetic magic could get around one of the Limits of Magic, that doesn't mean it would necessarily be more powerful than Hermetic magic. It might have inherent flaws of its own.

Since non-Hermetic magic doesn't use the same rules as Hermetic magic, each tradition has its own analogue of the [[spell guidelines]]. This means that things that are hard to do with the Hermetic Arts (that is, things that have a high-[[Magnitude]] spell guideline) might be a good deal easier under the rules for a particular form of non-Hermetic magic.

In some cases, advancement in non-Hermetic magic can be quicker than in Hermetic magic. The number of [[Ability|Abilities]] that a magician needs to learn is typically less than the large set of [[Art|Arts]] and [[Ability|Abilities]] needed by a [[magus]]. This advantage is frequently diminished by the lack of [[book|books]] on non-Hermetic magic.

=== Weaknesses of Non-Hermetic Magic ===

Non-Hermetic magic is a lot less flexible than Hermetic magic. Usually, a given tradition is limited to a single [[Form]] of magic, or perhaps a handful of forms.

Non-Hermetic traditions lack [[Parma Magica]]. Their spells and effects tend to have weak [[Penetration]]. This puts them at a serious disadvantage when they have to fight or compete with magi. Probably their best option is to try indirect attacks (see [[School of Vilano]]).

Most non-Heremtic magic is hard to learn and is not written down in [[book|books]]. This seriously limits the advancement potential of a hedge wizard.

== References ==

* Other Wizards, [[ArM5]] page 16
* Learning Supernatural Abilities, [[ArM5]] page 166

== Related Topics ==

* [[Mystery]]
* [[Hedge Wizard]]
* [[Diabolist]]
* [[House Ex Miscellanea]]
* [[Join or Die]]
* [[Ancient Magic]]
=== Legacy Page ===
The history of this page before August 6, 2010 is archived at [[Legacy:non-hermetic]]